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What happened to



the three main witnesses?



David Whitmer

said in 1887: "If you believe my testimony to the Book of Mormon; if you believe that God spake to us three witnesses by his own voice, then I tell you that in June, 1838, God spake to me again by his own voice from the heavens, and told me to 'separate myself from among the Latter-day Saints...'" (Address to all believers in Christ, p.27, 1887) this voice he heard not being around J. Smith

William McClellin gained support of the three main witnesses. He previously served as one of the Church's twelve apostles, but departed from the Church believing that Joseph was a fallen prophet. He convinced David Whitmer to take charge of the new church, and Whitmer began to receive revelations in support of its new teachings. Nothing much became of this movement, and David Whitmer later formed his own church, based on the Book of Mormon, but not without teaching that Joseph Smith had led the Mormons deeply into error.

David Whitmer also testified that the entire Book of Mormon text came through Joseph's seer stone. This is the same stone he used for buried treasure with his dad and was found guilty of glass looking.

Oliver Cowdery:



Was excommunicated from the Mormon Church and afterward joined the Methodist church. In 1841 the Mormons published a poem which stated "Or Book of Mormon not his word, because denied by Oliver". (Seasons and Times, Vol 2, p 482)...The Mormon church then accused Cowdery of Adultery claiming he had joined "a gang of counterfeiters, thieves, liars, and blacklegs". Joseph Smith listed Cowdery as among those, "too mean to mention" Before Cowdery died he said that the book of Doctrines & Covenants must be abandoned. Cowdery died, not in Utah, but at the home of fellow witness David Whitmer, who had also left the Mormon Church. Whitmer makes it clear that Cowdery "died believing as I do to-day," which included a belief that Joseph was a fallen prophet, and that the Doctrine and Covenants contained false revelations (An Address to All Believers in Christ, 1887, pp. 1-2).

Martin Harris:



Was known for being very unstable religiously. Over his whole life he changed his affiliation over 13 times. He signed his name to a statement: "Testimony of three witnesses: We Cheerfully certify...The Lord has made it known to me that David Witmer is the man. David was then called forward, and Joseph and his counselors laid hands upon him, and ordained him to his station, to succeed him...He will be prophet, seer, Revelator and Translator before God." Signed Martin Harris, Leonard Rich, Calvin Beebe. This never really came to pass as Brigham Young became Joseph Smith's successor.

An early Mormon convert, Stephen Burnett sent a letter in which he explains why he decided to leave the Church:

...but when I came to hear Martin Harris state in public that he never saw the plates with his natural eyes only in vision and imagination, neither Oliver nor David & also that the eight witnesses never saw them & hesitated to sign that instrument for that reason, but were persuaded to do it, the last pedestal gave away...I therefore three weeks since in the Stone Chapel...the reasons why I took the course which I was resolved to do, and renounced the Book of Mormon.

The Mormons stated of Martin Harris and a few other men within the pages of the church's official newspaper at the time, "a lying deceptive spirit attend them...they are of their father, the devil...The very countenance of Harris will show to every spiritual-minded person who sees him, that the wrath of God is upon him." (Latter-Day Saint's, Millennial Star, Vol. 8 pp124-128.) After being excommunicated from the Mormon Church his mother Ann Lee, the founder of the Shakers and Phineas Young, brother of future prophet Brigham Young, had stated that Martin Harris claimed his testimony for the Shaker faith was stronger than his testimony for the Book of Mormon.

Joseph Smith himself question the integrity of at least four of the eleven witnesses. Such characters as McClellan, John Whitmer, David Whitmer, Oliver Cowdery and Martin Harris, are too mean to mention; and we had liked to have forgotten them." (History of the Church, vol. 3:232 ) eventually almost All of these men are accused of lying, stealing, no integrity, apostasy, and dishonest business activities.

But Apostle John A. Widtsoe does not agree with their founder. Despite clear instability on these witnesses and certainly fertile imaginations, Apostle John A. Widtsoe states The Book of Mormon plates were seen and handled, at different times, by eleven competent men, of independent minds and spotless reputations, who published a formal statement of their experience. (Joseph Smith, Seeker After Truth, p. 338)

What about The Testimony Of Eight Witnesses



"BE IT KNOWN unto all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people, unto whom this work shall come: That Joseph Smith, Jun., the translator of this work, has shown unto us the plates of which hath been spoken, which have the appearance of gold; and as many of the leaves as the said Smith has translated we did handle with our hands; and we also saw the engravings thereon, all of which has the appearance of ancient work, and of curious workmanship. And this we bear record with words of soberness, that the said Smith has shown unto us, for we have seen and hefted, and know of a surety that the said Smith has got the plates of which we have spoken. And we give our names unto the world, to witness unto the world that which we have seen. And we lie not, God bearing witness of it.

Signed:

Christian Whitmer & Hiram Page & Jacob Whitmer & Joseph Smith, Sen. Peter Whitmer, Jun. & Hyrum Smith & John Whitmer & Samuel H. Smith

While the most perfect book states

only three witnesses, eight more

men are able to give their testimony in the Book of Mormon, found directly under the "

Testimony of Three Witnesses

." This is the changing mind of the God of Mormonism (or of Joseph smith) Doctrine and Covenants 5:11, 13-15 states there are to be "only" three witnesses,

"And in addition to your testimony (Joseph), the testimony of three of my servants, whom I shall call and ordain, unto whom I will show these things.... And unto none else will I grant this power, to receive this same testimony among this generation, And the testimony of three witnesses will I send forth of my word." Smith must have felt it necessary to prove this by an additional eight since he may have seen some doubt in the first three.

"we have seen the engravings which are upon the plates, and they have been shown unto us by the power of God, and not of man." (Book of Mormon, Ether 5:3, 4 also says three witnesses shall be shown "by the power of God.") this power of God was in vision not by the natural eyes.

Martin Harris

was asked, "Did you see the plates with your natural eyes, just as you see this pencil case in my hand? Now say yes or no." He answered, "Why I did not see them as I do that pencil case, I saw them with the eye of faith. I saw them just as distinctly as I see anything around me - though at the time they were covered over with a cloth."

When Joseph showed plates to the eight witnesses he had them sign a testimonial. Apparently, showing the plates to his father and brothers did not require the power of God, but supernatural power was needed for showing them to the three witnesses. What makes this interesting is that All of the witnesses (except Martin Harris) were related to Joseph Smith or David Whitmer?

By 1847 not a single one of the surviving eleven witnesses were part of the Mormon Church. Five of these witnesses joined The Church of Christ started by William McLellin, and Oliver Cowdery indicated he was supportive of this group, though he never joined. (D. Michael Quinn, The Mormon Hierarchy - Origins of Power, p. 188, Signature Books, 1994)

Yet Joseph Smith in May 1844 proclaimed this: "I have more to boast of than any man ever had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a church together since the days of Adam.… Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I." But his friends and relatives all apostatized.

Smith couldn't even keep his own witnesses together. When Jesus rose from the dead and the apostle Paul said to ask some of the 500 witnesses about the accuracy of his testimony (1Cor.15) do you think it would have had any weight if they all had a different story contradicting Paul?

Think about it, not only has there been no archeological proof of anything in their book, the original plates are gone, the earliest manuscript has been altered and all the ones that the book mentions as witnesses departed.

There's only one hope for a Mormon or anyone else to stand on the tried and true word of the Bible, this alone is GOD'S WORD.

 




The Bible



and



the Book of Mormon



Compared


By Chad Lyndon Dills



So what's the point of this comparison? It shows that the Book of Mormon has committed plagiarism by utilizing our beloved Final Authority (THE KING JAMES BIBLE) without "giving credit to whom credit is due." Is the Book of Mormon a direct revelation from God? Not a chance! To say that the Book of Mormon contains THE TRUTH is like saying that you found a diamond ring in a trash can. --the administrator of the Bible Believers' Home Page.

This page was created by Mr. Dills, a former student at North Carolina State University. After his graduation he gave permission to anyone to reproduce this page in its entirety so others could benefit from this excellent comparison.


Book of Mormon



King James Bible



charity sufferth long, and is kind, and envieth not,...is not puffed up,...seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil, and rejoiceth not in iniquity but rejoiceth in the truth, beareth all things,...hopeth all things, endurth all th ings (Moroni 7:45)

Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not;...is not puffed up,...seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things,...hopeth all things, endureth all things (1 Corinthians 13:4-7)

if ye have not charity, ye are nothing (Moroni 7:46)

and have not charity, I am nothing (1 Corinthians 13:2)

charity never faileth (Moroni 7:46)

Charity never faileth (1 Corinthians 13:8)

that when he shall appear we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is (Moroni 7:48)

that when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is (1 John 3:2)

that we may have this hope; that we may be purified even as he is pure (Moroni 7:48)

that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure (1 John 3:3)

the name of his Holy Child, Jesus (Moroni 8:3)

the name of thy holy child Jesus (Acts 4:30)

the gifts of God,...are many; and they come from the same God (Moroni 10:8)

there are diversities of gifts, buit the same Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:4)

there are different ways that these gifts are administered (Moroni 10:8)

there are differences of administrations (1 Corinthians 12:5)

but it is the same God who worketh all in all (Moroni 10:8)

but it is the same God which worketh all in all (1 Corinthians 12:6)

the manifestations of the Spirit of God unto men, to profit them (Moroni 10:8)

the manifestations of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal (1 Corinthians 12:7)

For behold, to one is given by the Sprit of God, that he may teach the word of wisdom (Moroni 10:9)

For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom (1 Corinthians 12:8)

to another, that he may teach the word of knowledge by the same Spirit (Moroni 10:10)

to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:8)

to another faith, exceeding great faith (Moroni 10:11)

To another faith (1 Corinthians 12:9)

to another, the gifts of healing by the same Spirit (Moroni 10:11)

to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:9)

to another, that he may work mightly miracles (Moroni 10:12)

to another the working of miracles (1 Corinthians 12:10)

to another, that he may prophesy (Moroni 10:13)

to another prophecy (1 Corinthians 12:10)

to another, the beholding of angels and ministering spirits (Moroni 10:14)

to another discerning of spirits (1 Corinthians 12:10)

to another, all kinds of tongues (Moroni 10:15)

to another divers kinds of tongues (1 Corinthians 12:10)

to another, the interpretation of languages and of divers kinds of tongues (Moroni 10:16)

to another the interpretation of tongues (1 Corinthians 12:10)

all these gifts come by the Spirit of Christ; and they come unto every man secerally, according as he will (Moroni 10:17)

all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will (1 Corinthians 12:11)

every good gift cometh of Christ (Moroni 10:18)

Every good gift...cometh down from the Father (James 1:17)

the Eternal Judge of both quick and dead (Moroni 10:34)

the Judge of quick and dead (Acts 10:42)





stand fast in the faith (Alma 1:25)

stand fast in the faith (1 Corinthanians 16:13)

sit down in the kingdom of God, with Abraham, with Isacc, and with Jacob (Alma 5:24)

sit down with Abraham, and Isacc, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 8:11)

the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace, and mercy, and truth (Alma 5:48)

the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth (John 1:14)

take away the sins of the world (Alma 5:48)

taketh away the sin of the world (John 1:29)

the ax is laid at the root of the tree, therefore every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit shall be hewn down and cast into the fire (Alma 5:52)

the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down and cast into the fire (Matthew 3:10)

bring forth works which are meet for repentance (Alma 5:54)

Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance (Matthew 3:8)

come ye out from the wicked, and be ye separate, and touch not their unclean things (Alma 5:57)

come out from among them, and be ye separate,...and touch not the unclean thing (2 Corinthians 6:17)

and to cleanse from all unrighteousness (Alma 7:14)

and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9)

lay aside every sin, which easily doth beset you (Alma 7:15)

lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us (Hebrews 12:1)

he who is filthy shall remain in his filthiness (Alma 7:21)

he which is filthy, let him be filthy still (Revelation 22:11)

faith, hope, and charity (Alma 7:24)

faith, hope, charity (1 Corinthians 13:13)

thou hast not lied unto men only but thou hast lied unto God (Alma 12:3)

thou hast not lied unto men , but unto God (Acts 5:4)

resurrection of the dead,...both the just and the unjust (Alma 12:8)

resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust (Acts 24:15)

the rocks and the mountains, to fall upon us to hide us from (Alma 12:27)

the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from (Revelation 6:16)

must die; and after death, they must come to judgment (Alma 12:27)

to die, but after this the judgment (Hebrews 9:27)

this same Melchizedek to whom Abraham paid...of one-tenth part of all (Alma 133:15)

this Melchisedec,...To whom also Amraham gave a tenth part of all (Hebrews 7:1-2)

not to be tempted above that which ye can bear (Alma 13:28)

not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able (1 Corinthians 10:13)

Rabbanah, which is...powerful or great king (Alma 18:13)

Rabboni; which is to say, Master (John 20:16)

being wise yet harmless (Alma 18:22)

be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves (Matthew 10:16)

I say unto thee, woman, there has not been such great faith among all the people of the Nephites (Alma 19:10)

I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel (Luke 7:9)

my heart is exceeding sorrowful (Alma 31:31)

My soul is exceeding sorrowful (Matthew 26:38)

if ye have faith ye hope for things which are not seen (Alma 32:21)

Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen (Hebrews 11:1)

springing up unto everlasting life (Alma 32:41)

springing up into everlasting life (John 4:14)

it shall be all fulfilled, every jot and tittle, and none shall have passed away (Alma 34:13)

one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled (Matthew 5:18)

against the devil, who is an enemy to all righteousness (Alma 34:23)

child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness (Acts 13:10)

cast out,...and is trodden under foot of men (Alma 34:29)

cast out,...and to be trodden under foot of men (Matthew 5:13)

behold now is the time and the day of your salvation (Alma 34:31)

behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation (2 Corinthians 6:2)

work out your salvation with fear (Alma 34:37)

work out your own salvation with fear (Philippians 2:12)

worship God,...in spirit and in truth (Alma 34:38)

worship him,...in spirit and in truth (John 4:24)

and learn of me; for I (Alma 36:3)

and learn of me; for I (Matthew 11:29)

Jesus, thou Son of God, have mercy on me (Alma 36:18)

Jesus thou son of David, have mercy on me (Mark 10:47)

meek and lowly in heart; for such shall find rest to their souls (Alma 37:34)

meek and lowly in heart; and ye shall find rest unto your souls (Matthew 11:29)

he is...the light of the world (Alma 38:9)

I am the light of the world (John 8:12)

the lusts of your eyes (Alma 39:9)

the lusts of the eyes (1 John 2:16)

shall be cast out into outer darkness; there shall be weeping, and wailing, and gnashing of teeth (Alma 40:13)

shall be cast out into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth (Matthew 8:12)

fearful looking for the fiery indignation of the wrath of God (Alma 40:14)

fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries (Hebrews 10:27)

restoration of those things of which has been spoken by the mouths of the prophets (Alma 40:22)

restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets (Acts 3:21)

then shall the righteous shine forth in the kingdom of God (Alma 40:25)

Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father (Matthew 13:43)

without God in the world (Alma 41:11)

without God in the world (Ephesians 2:12)

it was appointed unto man to die (Alma 42:6)

it is appointed unto men once to die (Hebrews 9:27)

the inward vessel shall be cleansed first, and then shall the outer vessel be cleansed also (Alma 60:23)

cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also (Matthew 23:26)

lay up for yourselves a treasure in heaven (Helaman 5:8)

lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven (Matthew 6:20)

except ye repent ye shall perish (Helaman 5:8)

except ye repent, ye shall...perish (Matthew 6:20)

And as he lifted up the brazen serpent in the wilderness, even so shall he be lifted up who should come (Heleman 8:14)

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up (John 3:14)

heaping up for yourselves wrath against the day of judgment (Helaman 8:25)

treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment (Romans 2:5)

darkness rather than light (Helaman 13:29)

darkness rather than light (John 3:19)

graves shall be opened; and shall yield up many of their dead; and many saints shall appear unto many (Helaman 14:25)

graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,...and appeared unto many (Matthew 27:52-53)

the dog to his vomit, or like the sow to her wallowing in the mire (3 Nephi 7:8)

the dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire (2 Peter 2:22)

Old things are done away, and all things have become new (3 Nephi 26:3)

old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new (2 Corinthians 5:17)

the elements should melt with fervent heat, and the earth (3 Nephi 26:3)

the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth (2 Peter 3:10)
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